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John Stewart on CNBC..very entertaining |
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SoxFan343 |
You act like these people just walked into the bank/office and said | #21 | ||
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Posts: 4010 Mar 5, 2009 3:41 PM Registered Member |
hey I want $250,000. The banks/mortgage companies could have not given them the money.
To me, both are at fault. The banks should be smarter about who they give loans too and people should do a better job of understanding their financial position. |
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OleTex98 |
Somebody has to do it. | #22 | ||
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Posts: 1096 Mar 5, 2009 3:44 PM Registered Member |
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patdog.sixpackspeak |
Me too. He quit being funny a long time ago | #23 | ||
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Posts: 389 Mar 5, 2009 3:46 PM |
(not that he was ever all that funny to start with) and is just an angry little man. Lose some anger and add some humor and I might watch. The Daily Show has
been shit ever since he took over from Greg Kilborn.
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 CapitolHillRebel |
He and I would probably vote alike most of the time... | #24 | ||
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Posts: 2463 Mar 5, 2009 3:46 PM Retired |
but I lose patience with the "I'm just a comedy-show host" argument he deploys every time someone questions a political point that he makes.
Don't ever worry about being "retardedly optimistic." I don't know of any other way to approach a situation.
--stillabeliever, RebelSports.net, 5/31/2007 
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VanillaFace |
On the topic of hospitals, since I work in one... | #25 | ||
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Posts: 1378 Mar 5, 2009 3:46 PM Tool
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believe it or not, the way a hospital looks makes a huge difference in public perception.
And the perception of the public is the best thing you have to go on, because if they think of shitty old rooms (even though they're sterile and have the right equipment), dark hallways, and old, worn out looking stuff, then they don't want to go there. Thats part of why nobody ever, EVER wanted to go to UMC in Jackson for ANYTHING when I was growing up. There was this perception that you just didn't go to UMC for anything unless you had a really, really bad injury (or multiple bad injuries). That has since changed since UMC moved out of the old hospital and into the recently built new hospital (finished 2-3 years ago). Even the patients will tell you that they didn't ever want to come to UMC because of how it looked and used to purposely avoid it. Perception and how the hospital matters to most. |
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Married to a Dog |
Banks got greedy, but the government helped them get there. | #26 | ||
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Posts: 407 Mar 5, 2009 3:49 PM Registered Member |
Freddie and Fannie backing some of these trash loans was what caused them to become rampant. Just sayin . . .
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patdog.sixpackspeak |
He's not a comedy show host and hasn't been for a long time. | #27 | ||
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Posts: 390 Mar 5, 2009 3:49 PM |
He's a political pundit who occasionally mixes in a little humor.
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VanillaFace |
No, I didn't say that. | #28 | ||
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Posts: 1379 Mar 5, 2009 3:51 PM Tool
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I think the difference now is that there are alot more regulations to find out these people's status.
I just got a mortgage for a new house. We were talking to the guy who did it for us (he's now senior management), and he said at the bank he used to work at several years back (90's to early 2000's), when the economy and housing market was good, would basically hand out mortgages. All the bank statement checks, savings checks, checking your income, etc etc etc wasn't done. He said people were coming in and getting loans like crazy, and there was almost nothing that they could do about it (because of some type of legislation that I can't remember now). I think both are at fault, but I hold those that can't pay their mortgage more at fault. YOU owe the fucking money, I shouldn't have to pay it back. |
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OleTex98 |
I'm not saying it has to be a dark dungeon with cinderblock walls.... | #29 | ||
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Posts: 1097 Mar 5, 2009 3:52 PM Registered Member |
It just doesn't need 10,000' sq lobbies with skylights and statutes and food courts inside of them. That is a huge waste of money and by the time that
amount has been fully amortized in countless numbers of inflated hospital bills, they have to build another one b/c the less than 20 year old hospital looks
old.
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CheapSOB |
Damnation | #30 | ||
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Posts: 316 Mar 5, 2009 3:57 PM Registered Member |
I agree with everything you said. The gov't induced ninja loans created too much demand, which drove the market prices to unrealistic values. To people
who are walking away who are "upside down": keep paying the note and you'll eventually catch up.
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VanillaFace |
I agree, there has to be a middle. | #31 | ||
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Posts: 1382 Mar 5, 2009 4:03 PM Tool
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But the hospital still has to look good and have some extra. It can't just be a bunch of hallways with offices and hospital rooms. There has to be a little
something that makes people feel a little more like its somewhere they're staying and eventually leaving and not a scary place that people come to die or
get sicker than when they came.
We have a Subway and McDonalds, as well as a large Mississippi Rehab Center cafeteria type place. There is a big 2-story lobby in front of the new hospital that serves as a lobby and has some offices and a gift center. My position is hard to explain fully if you're not someone that experiences it on a daily basis. |
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ridgereb84 |
That's what I'm having a hard time getting a grip on. | #32 | ||
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Posts: 7332 Mar 5, 2009 4:03 PM |
I've seen several news stories in which they talk to homeowners who decry the fact that they now owe more than the house is "worth". Their note
is the same, they haven't lost their jobs, the house is the same piece of property that they ostensibly loved 9 months ago. Yet they have decided to walk
away from their houses because they are worth less.
Nothing else changed. The house didn't suddenly become a piece of shit. So to those people: keep living in your house, going to work, paying your f'n mortgage, and wait for the housing market to eventually correct itself.
Rick Rodriguez, Dexter McCluster's H.S. coach: "When the Florida recruiters came down
recruiting Dex, I told them they'd better sign him or he'd come back to bite them in the ass. He bit them in the ass last fall."
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Ad Wizard |
But that's the problem- the housing market is correcting itself | #33 | ||
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Posts: 372 Mar 5, 2009 4:17 PM |
What we need is some good old fashioned european hyper inflation to get those home values back up...joking
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Oxford Godfrey |
I agree, and I think people like us should go take a walk or something | #34 | ||
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Posts: 3665 Mar 5, 2009 4:27 PM
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Best not to argue with either side's fanatics.
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SourReb |
You forgot to add: | #35 | ||
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Posts: 2408 Mar 5, 2009 4:35 PM Registered Member |
"And the Civil War was fought over states' rights, not slavery".
That should have been included in your "post". Also, the stimulus doesn't exist to get us out of debt. It exists to help the economy, which shrunk 6.2% last quarter and will announce unemployment north of 8.0% tomorrow. |
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CheapSOB |
If they are looking for a government handout | #36 | ||
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Posts: 317 Mar 5, 2009 4:35 PM Registered Member |
I'll blame their ass all goddamned day long.
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VanillaFace |
This election cycle reminded me why I have always claimed to be "apathetic" in political position. | #37 | ||
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Posts: 1383 Mar 5, 2009 4:38 PM Tool
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I fucking hate the fanatics on both sides.
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Posts: 27 Mar 5, 2009 4:46 PM |
With the skill at which he edits video and takes statements out of context, I think he is a shit crumb off of the fat ass of Michael Moore.
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ridgereb84 |
But most of the country is not like | #39 | ||
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Posts: 7333 Mar 5, 2009 5:00 PM |
California, Florida, and Nevada where housing properties are concerned. Some of those people were fools for buying at those garbage prices.
Rick Rodriguez, Dexter McCluster's H.S. coach: "When the Florida recruiters came down
recruiting Dex, I told them they'd better sign him or he'd come back to bite them in the ass. He bit them in the ass last fall."
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